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Sequencing / Over-the-top

Starting the downswing with the lower body instead of the arms/shoulders. Over-the-top is treated as a symptom of this rather than a separate fault.

This fault has come up in 1 of the last 1 lessons.

Timeline

  1. 3 Oct 2026

    review

    Driver, standalone range visit: every shot still missed right (avg 29.0yd), same one-directional pattern as both 9/27 driver blocks — the distance gain this session hasn't come with a fix to the miss direction, consistent with the arms-before-hips pattern already confirmed on video.

  2. 27 Sept 2026

    review

    First range block on step-change-of-direction + pump-drill since the lesson. Block average (99yd carry, 106mph) is below baseline but steadier than it first looked from 3 individually-logged shots — expected while isolating the new movement. Numbers can't confirm the sequencing itself changed, that needs video.

  3. 27 Sept 2026

    review

    User's own read on the following contact block: "little consistency at the start but felt like finding a good groove in the sequencing toward the end." Matches the numbers — launch/apex improved through the block at the same ball speed as the sequencing block. Worth checking at the next lesson whether this held up under transfer/pressure-test, or was specific to slow drill reps.

  4. 27 Sept 2026

    review

    Driver transfer block: big, consistent right curve across all shots (avg 38.3yd offline right) — the textbook signature of an over-the-top/outside-in path, and it showed up hard once full speed and the driver came back into it. The iron drill work didn't transfer here yet. Worth naming specifically to Adrian next lesson.

  5. 27 Sept 2026

    review

    Final pressure-test block: user felt they'd found "the right driver feel" but described it as more vertical than their iron swing — flagged as a concern, not confirmed as good, since a normal driver swing should feel shallower/flatter than irons, not steeper, and "more vertical" overlaps with what over-the-top looks like. Best distance of the day (193yd avg carry) but less consistent miss direction than the one-way-right transfer block. Genuinely good question for Adrian: driver hasn't been covered in a lesson yet.

  6. 27 Sept 2026

    review

    Real video, driver, extra balls after the session: frame-by-frame confirms the arms/club drop from the top before the hips clear, same pattern as the 9/12 lesson's 7-iron video review — now confirmed on driver at full speed, not just irons or slow drills. Answers the pressure-test question directly: the "more vertical" feel was the fault, not a fix. Top-of-backswing position itself is solid; the issue is entirely the transition.

  7. 27 Sept 2026

    review

    5-swing video filmed right after a specific in-the-moment cue (hip-first, 80% speed). Same arms-before-hips pattern held across all 3 swings that could be assessed — the cue didn't visibly change the sequencing in these reps. Not unusual for one cue over a handful of swings, but confirms this needs slow isolated driver-specific drill work (today's drills were 7-iron only) and live coaching, not more self-directed full-speed reps.

  8. 27 Sept 2026

    review

    User's first-ever driving range video, ~1 year old, shared to check for real improvement. Shot from a different angle (face-on, not behind/side-on) which genuinely limits a direct hip-vs-arm comparison to today's footage — no confident before/after verdict on the sequencing fault itself. What is comparable: the pause at the top was noticeably longer a year ago than in any of today's swings, so tempo has changed regardless of what's true about sequencing. Recommended filming future sessions from today's angle so a real comparison is possible next time.

  9. 27 Sept 2026

    review

    A second ~1-year-old video (iron), this time filmed from the same behind/side-on angle as today — a genuinely direct comparison. Same arms-before-hips transition pattern then and now, no visible change over the year. Honest answer to "am I not getting better": on this specific fault, no. Points at needing sustained coached repetition rather than more solo range time — worth raising with Adrian as a standing check-in item, not just a one-off.

  10. 12 Sept 2026

    lesson

    Coach cue: "let the arms drop" (feel cue for passive arms, not skipping the lower body). Recommended step-change-of-direction and pump-drill.

  11. 12 Sept 2026

    review

    Swing-video review confirmed arms/shoulders start the downswing before the hips clear; suggested pump-drill and step-change-of-direction.

Related Reviews

3 Oct 2026 · range-screenshot

Genuinely good distance news on driver -- carry is up meaningfully at comparable ball speed, which wasn't true on 9/27. But the miss pattern (one-way right, matching the known over-the-top path) hasn't moved, exactly as the video evidence predicted it wouldn't from a single session's cueing. Driver now has 8 logged shots with carry and offline both present, past the 5-shot minimum for a data-driven goal -- worth asking for one if useful. If 7-iron numbers get shared too, happy to log those alongside.

27 Sept 2026 · range-screenshot

Correcting the earlier read: the block average tells a calmer story than the 3 individual shots did — carry and ball speed are down from baseline as expected while grooving a new movement, but not the wild, outlier-driven picture the last 3 shots alone suggested. Numbers alone still can't confirm the sequencing itself has changed (that needs video), so this stays feel-building, not a verdict on progress — but there's no cause for concern here.

27 Sept 2026 · range-screenshot

This reads as real progress within the session, not just noise: contact quality (launch angle, apex) improved from the sequencing block to this one at the same ball speed, matching the user's own sense that the sequencing feel clicked partway through. Left miss shows up in the 3 sampled shots but shouldn't be overweighted given the average tells a steadier story. Worth asking next lesson whether this improved feel held up under the transfer/pressure-test blocks that follow, or was specific to slow, deliberate drill reps.

27 Sept 2026 · range-screenshot

This is the clearest single piece of evidence today: two blocks of sequencing/contact drill work on irons didn't erase the pattern once the driver and full speed came back into it -- the ball flight (big, one-directional right curve) matches the over-the-top diagnosis directly, and it's very likely the same root cause as the toe/top misses at Ramsdale and the short/right pattern here: an outside-in downswing path. Worth naming this specifically to Adrian next lesson as evidence the drills are helping the feel in isolation but haven't yet transferred to full-speed driver swings.

27 Sept 2026 · range-screenshot

Don't take 'felt like the right driver feel' at face value yet -- the description of it (more vertical) points the opposite direction from what a driver swing normally wants, and overlaps suspiciously with the known over-the-top pattern rather than a fix for it. The result (best distance of the day, but less consistent miss direction than the transfer block) doesn't clearly confirm or deny it either. This is a genuinely good, specific question for Adrian: driver-specific technique has never been covered, and 'should my driver swing feel different from my irons, and how' is worth asking directly rather than guessing from feel alone.

27 Sept 2026 · swing-video

This directly answers the open question from the pressure test block: the 'more vertical' feel wasn't a correction, it was the same over-the-top pattern -- arms and club dropping steeply from the top before the hips clear, which is exactly what produces a steep, vertical-feeling downswing and the big right curve seen in both driver blocks today. The backswing and top position are genuinely fine; the fix is still entirely about the transition, matching the coach's existing 'let the arms drop' cue and the step-change/pump-drill work. Worth showing this exact video to Adrian -- it's the clearest evidence yet that the fault is identical on driver and irons, just more visible/costly on the longer club.

27 Sept 2026 · swing-video

Straightforward but not the answer hoped for: the arms-first pattern held across all 3 swings this video could assess, immediately after being given a specific cue to fix it. That's normal, not a bad sign on its own -- a verbal cue rarely overrides a well-grooved pattern in a handful of reps, especially at driver speed -- but it does mean the fix isn't going to come from a single range session of self-directed cueing. The two most useful next steps: (1) go back to slow, isolated pump-drill/step-change reps specifically with the driver (today's drill work was all 7-iron) before trying full-speed transfer again, and (2) bring this video to Adrian rather than continuing to self-diagnose -- a coach watching live can catch the exact moment and give real-time feedback in a way video review after the fact can't.

27 Sept 2026 · swing-video

Can't give a clean yes/no on whether the specific sequencing fault has improved since this video -- the camera angle is too different from today's to make a confident before/after call, and that's a real limitation, not a way of avoiding the question. What's genuinely visible either way: tempo has changed (a much shorter pause at the top now), and there's a hint of earlier leg/weight movement in the older footage that today's swings didn't show, though it's not conclusive from this angle. The practical fix for 'am I improving' going forward is boring but real: film future range sessions from the same angle (behind/side-on, like today) so a real year-from-now comparison is actually possible, rather than relying on old footage shot for a different purpose.

27 Sept 2026 · swing-video

This is the direct comparison the earlier face-on video couldn't give: from the same angle, a year apart, the transition looks the same -- arms/club initiating before the hips clear, both then and now. That's a genuinely honest answer to 'am I not getting any better': on this specific fault, from this evidence, no clear change is visible over a year. That's worth taking seriously rather than softening, but it also points at what's actually needed -- this fault has been present long enough and through enough unsupervised practice that it's very unlikely to resolve through more range time alone. It needs sustained, coached repetition (ideally checked in most lessons going forward, not just when it comes up), not another solo session.

12 Sept 2026 · swing-video

This confirms what came up in today's lesson: the downswing is being started by the arms/shoulders instead of the lower body, which pushes the club out and over the ideal path and shows up as the over-the-top move. The fix isn't a separate swing-plane correction — it's getting the hips to initiate the downswing first so the arms are just along for the ride, matching the coach's "let the arms drop" cue.